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Why I No Longer Run Disc Golf Tournaments

 

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Mike is a fantastic tournament director. He’s been running disc golf tournaments for some 25 years and they’ve ranged in size from a few people to hundreds. His ability to run a smooth, fun event is one of the reasons why the Northwoods Open is arguably the most popular disc golf event in the state of Wisconsin. He credits all the support he gets from the disc golf community, which includes a staff of experienced tournament directors and statisticians; however, I happen to know his success comes not only from experience, but also from his personality.

First of all, he’s a golfer and has been since 1974. He loves the sport, loves the discs, and loves most of the people who play. He’s got a strong voice, with stock-market-trained diaphragm projection, and he has created an amazing 27-hole course, literally carved out of the forest. Maintaining it is a top priority. It’s impossible not to notice all the thought and care that goes into the course at Sandy Point Disc Golf Ranch.

Also, he gives everyone who participates in the Northwoods Open a player package, Pros and Ams alike.


mikejoe.jpgThe subject of Pro players vs. Amateur players came up today in a phone conversation I had with a person who called to ask about the tournament. He wanted to participate, but hasn’t had any tournament experience—even though he insisted he and “his partner” were phenomenal players. I suggest he enter the “Intermediate” Division for men, as it’s the competitive division for players just getting started with PDGA competition. The entry fee for this division is $35, which is $70 less than the Open Pro Division. Also, because this is a PDGA-sanctioned event and players must be current dues-paying members to participate (or in the case of amateur and recreational divisions, pay a PDGA tax of $10), his total fee would be $45 for two days of competition.

After asking several questions about the format, scoring, the check-in procedure (which would be “impossible” for him because he works two jobs—blah-blah-blah—) he wanted to know about payout.

“Now, I don’t mean to be modest (?), dear, but I noticed there’s nothing on your website about payout,” he said.

“Well that’s because we have no way of knowing what the payout will be until we have a final figure on the number of competitors. But the payout will be in line for the requirements of a PDGA A-tier event for the pros and B-tier event for the amateurs.”

“What kind of cash are we talking?”

“Amateurs don’t receive cash awards in PDGA events. It would compromise their amateur status. Instead they receive merchandise vouchers that are redeemable in our pro shop.”

“Well, that’s not right,” he said.

22close.jpgWhat came out of his mouth next was a combination of an incredulous reaction to this ridiculous practice, and a lecture of how it wasn’t right to contribute $45 to an event and expect to get no cash in return.  “Let me put it to you this way, dear, how would you like to go to a competition, pay for it, win it and get nothing but a voucher in return?”

Sigh. I looked at the clock and remained calm. “If you want to play for money," I said, “then you should play in the Open Pro Division.” I wanted to add: “But it’ll cost you even more, DEAR!” But I didn't.

As he blathered on with his complaints and his lecture, my cell phone rang with my husband’s personalized urgent-sounding ring, and I knew I had to end my call with the incredulous lecturer disguising himself as a disc golfer. I had already spent far too much time explaining things like foursomes, saying your score out loud after each hole, turning in your card and being responsible for the math. . . .

I’m happy to take entry fees over the phone and give lodging and local campground information, but I can’t conduct a player’s meeting on my dime when my other phone is ringing and I have a list of five other calls to return.

“I can’t have this conversation,” I said. “I have to go.” CLICK.


Any seasoned tournament director will tell you that there can be 200 wonderful people participating in a tournament, who help make the experience fun and exciting. But he’ll also tell you that there’s ALWAYS one a$$hole, who threatens to mar your positive efforts.

The trick is to not let him get to you.

Mike learned that a long time ago. I, on the other hand, crave an a$$hole-free existence and simply won’t tolerate a bully on any front. (Especially one that calls me “Dear” in every sentence he utters). This is why I’ll be back in Tucson during the 15th Annual Northwoods Open and Mike will be here, running what I’m sure will be another highly successful disc golf tournament.

Best of luck to all the great players who grace our Northwoods home each year. Have fun, and remember to LOOK UP!

 

 

 

Disc Golf Loses a Champion

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Tim Selinske, one of the founding partners of INNOVA-Champion Golf Discs, passed away after a long battle with Langerhans' Cell Histiocytosis. According to Innova, he had been undergoing treatment for the last eight months when his condition took a turn for the worse earlier last week. He died at 3am (California time) on Friday.

Tim and Mike had a 25-year relationship, which began in 1984 when Mike placed his first order for 100 discs with the infamous Berkeley Aquatic Park hot stamp. I don’t know specifically what the order included, but my guess is that the majority was those now highly coveted San Marino Rocs.

innova2.jpgI last saw Tim at the Rancho factory in the Spring of 08, and prior to that during the summer the Worlds were held near our resort in Northern Wisconsin. He helped make the Fly Mart, which for us was a great big disc golf reunion, even more fun.

Every time I saw Tim he greeted me with an enormous bear hug, and he never stopped smiling. He was someone who was always interested in what I had to say, whether the conversation was about golf discs or our kids. Tim is probably the main reason why our pro shop features Innova Champion products exclusively. He developed a great company with a fantastic product, and we simply enjoyed doing business with him.

His passing is a tremendous loss for the disc golf community, and a personal loss for Mike and me. Tim was a friend.


FROM THE INNOVA Website:
Beginning with his days with the International Frisbee Association, and until his untimely death, Tim was a tireless promoter of disc sports in general and Disc Golf in particular. Tim was one of the four founding partners of INNOVA-Champion Discs and served as the company General Manager and spokesman.

Tim was a loving and dedicated family man. Engaging, warm, lovable, affable, friendly, loving, smiling, affirming, funny, fun loving and kind are some of the words that best describe Tim. Most of Tim's energy went into making other people happy or feel good about themselves. Almost everyone liked Tim because he was so quick to give a smile and encouragement to them.
He was a joyous smiling presence who seemed to be able to brighten the spirits of anyone around him. His great good humor, generosity of spirit and his boundless enthusiasm for Disc Golf and life made knowing him an honor and a privilege.

As the voice and face of Innova over the years, Tim's affability gave us a warm friendly persona that we cannot replace. The Frisbee family will miss him. Disc Golf will miss him. We were all richer for having known him. We will all be poorer for his passing. All of us will miss him more than words can tell.

He is survived by his wife, Sue and children, Connor, Kimberly and Kyle and brothers Tom and Joe, sister Mary and his mother Kathy. Our thoughts are with them in this terribly sad time

 

Photo Featured in Flying Disc Magazine

dock_throw_2.jpgPhoto by Jay Yeti Reading at the 2008 Northwoods Open. Todd Kozlencer takes his best shot in the annual Off-the-Raft driving contest.

 

 

 

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Get Your Groove On!

trio2.jpgLast summer we asked friends and fans of Sandy Point Resort to get their LOON on! Our 2008 t-shirt features our most popular disc golf hotstamp, which was created by Randy Shukar, and the shirt design, oddly enough, came to me in a dream.

The hotstamp on the front was something I'd wanted to do for a while, but then our good friend JAKE-O came to me in a dream one night and said the words in his extra-low, DJ voice: "Get Your LOON On!" He followed this statement with a Yul Brynner laugh. I woke up with a smile and an idea.

 

You can still get your Loon On by clicking HERE.

 

d63f_1.jpg Now, here we are in the middle of winter and we want you to get something else on: Your GROOVE!

Mike has just received a shipment of the hottest new golf disc from Innova-Champion. It's a Speed 13 driver meant especially for beginner and intermediate golfers and it's called, you guessed it, the GROOVE.

Featuring an innovative groove in the rim, it enables slower arms to achieve greater speed and distance. So far, they are FLYING out of here. Don't miss out on these first run discs. Check out Mike's ebay listings by clicking HERE.

You'll be feeling groovy out on the disc golf course in no time! 

 

 

 

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